What do you do?
I am part of the team at MAT Kosovo delivering EOD training. I am responsible not only for translating the training materials into Ukrainian but I’m also the primary point of contact for new recruits, before, during and after their training. I manage a team of three interpreters. I am also a level 3 trained EOD operator myself, so can provide advice to trainees.
What made you decide to take on this critical role?
I had been working in military interpretation since 2018. I worked with the Canadian Military before being appointed as the advisor to the Commander of the Canadian Military Training Mission in Ukraine. Early 2022 I undertook a voluntary placement at MAT Kosovo before accepting the role full time. My desire to move into the field was fuelled by a need to use my skills to defend my country – something all responsible Ukrainians have been doing. Before all of this I worked in marketing for a high performance car dealership in India!
Who have you trained?
Our first courses were made up primarily of women – the first course was eight Ukrainian women who we now refer to as the ‘Great Eight’. The Great Eight are all in Ukraine using the skills they learnt on our course, and almost all of them have been back to us since in order to qualify to a higher level of competency. Our trainees come from all walks of life – we’ve had a midwife, members of the emergency services, the National Guard, we even had a surfing instructor come back to Ukraine to undertake the training so that they could help their country. As I said earlier, all responsible Ukrainians are doing their bit to defend their country and to make it a safer place in the future.
Was training women in EOD a big step for Ukraine?
Yes, it was. Before 2022 no women had ever been trained in EOD – the culture was very much the men defend the women of the country. When we first asked for trainees, the Ukrainian Government decree, that stated that men of fighting age could not leave the country, meant we could only take women to Kosovo – and so the Great Eight came to be! Now women are very much part of the framework; the pressure and the need to add capacity has seen women become an integral part of the EOD community.
And are women good at the job?
They are exceptionally good. Our male counterparts are extremely competent but women approach EOD in a slightly different way. In my experience men tend to walk straight to the device and consider how to dispose of it. They are also motivated by peer pressure a little more, so if disposing of a device is above their competence level, rather than taking a step back and saying they need advice or support, they often attempt it. Women on the other hand look at the bigger picture – they ask if there may be a school nearby or shops and assess whether it is the right approach to dispose of the device at that time. They also ask for help more readily.